Turtles again. Jeez.

Goodness. What does one make of this exchange, between Bill O’Reilly and Margaret Hoover, via Media Matters for America:

O’REILLY: Hoover, you would let everybody get married who want to get married. You want to marry a turtle, you can.

HOOVER: Due process. I want to abide by the law. If the law says I can marry a turtle, I’ll marry a turtle. Last time I checked, we’re a Judeo-Christian culture that doesn’t allow me to marry turtles.

O’Reilly’s raising one of the time-honored tropes of gay-marriage opponents, and his notional opponent Hoover’s attempt to parry it is ineffective at best.

Wouldn’t it be more effective and truthful to say something like “Bill, that’s completely irrelevant. Turtles can’t even marry other turtles.” Leave the equal protection stuff and especially the Judeo-Christian stuff out of it. I mean, jeez.

Here’s the whole segment.

Who cares what happens to Miss California?

Carrie Prejean, her opinions, and some rather prosaic seminude photographs have received entirely too much attention in the media.

Look: she has an opinion on same-sex marriage, and she’s absolutely entitled to. She didn’t express that opinion too gracefully when it was solicited, but it wasn’t a beyond-the-pale hateful opinion. I’m not impressed with her subsequent behavior, but I’m also absolutely appalled at Perez Hilton’s. (Calling her a “dumb bitch” is beyond the pale.)

And if she’s fired for lying about those photos, isn’t that a pretty small fig leaf? The claims of the California pageant officials that she’s furthering her own agenda at the pageant’s expense may hold water, but in the end that may not matter. Prejean has managed to capture all the fame, or at least notoriety, available in this venue, without earning it in the least.

There’s precedent: does anybody remember who became Miss America after Vanessa Williams was disqualified?

Why conservatives fear gay marriage

Salon now regularly features opinion pieces by the pseudonymous “Glenallen Walken,” described by the editors as “a real live conservative and former Bush official who chooses to remain anonymous.” The desire for anonymity may be understandable, since the column’s title is “Ask a Wingnut.”

Walken’s most recent piece tackles marriage equality, and why conservatives oppose it. The piece is reasonably successful in setting forth conservative arguments; I found it far less so in addressing why anyone who doesn’t already subscribe to them should be persuaded.

Instead Walken sets up a straw man to unsubtly accuse marriage proponents of bad faith, overtly suggests that they want marriage more to force their beliefs on others than for the sake of marriage itself, and implies that the best way to reinforce “social traditions that, over time, have demonstrated that they exist for everyone’s benefit” is to exclude gay couples from those traditions. And that’s in just the first three paragraphs.

Walken then describes marriage as “the best way to establish an enduring relationship between adults to best protect the interests of children and, to some degree, women.” If there are prizes for unselfconscious displays of egregious sexism and paternalism, that one gets my vote.

Walken also repeats the canard that your church might be legally required to perform marriages that it finds objectionable on religious grounds, going back to Henry VIII for precedent. (Personally, I think that’s kind of a stretch.)

If I fisk the whole thing, I’ll be here all night. But the column’s worth reading, if only because it outlines the arguments without being completely infuriating. Which is not to say that I find any of them at all persuasive.

(Via Pam’s House Blend.)

New York Governor Calls for Same-Sex Marriage Legislation

This morning, Governor David Paterson of New York called for that state’s legislature to enact legislation authorizing same-sex marriage.

The NYTimes reports:

Comparing the status of gay men and lesbians with that of blacks, Jews, women, disabled people and other groups who were historically excluded from full political and social equality, Mr. Paterson said he would lead the movement to authorize same-sex marriage in the Empire State. “We have a crisis of leadership today,” he declared. “We’re going to fill that vacuum today.”

New York mayor Michael Bloomberg was also present at the event, which took place at Paterson’s Manhattan office. He invoked New York’s involvement in past civil rights efforts with uplifting rhetoric: “This is where Elizabeth Cady Stanton and Susan B. Anthony began the struggle for women’s suffrage,” he said. “This is where the N.A.A.C.P. was founded 100 years ago — and they’re bringing their convention back to the city this summer. I’m happy today and still today New York City is a major center for worker’s rights, for immigrant rights and for gay rights.”

Passage of a same-sex marriage bill isn’t a sure thing; at this point it appears that such a measure would fail in the state senate.

Celebration of Love and Marriage

The local paper has an article on what I’m sure is a charming Valentine’s Day event:

A reminder to all the sweethearts across Kerr County, the New Hope Counseling Center will host a ‘Celebration of Love and Marriage,’ Saturday, Feb. 14, 7-9 p.m. at the Inn of the Hills Bluebonnet Room.

The New York steak dinner will honor couples who have been together for 10, 20, 50 years and more. Older couples are encouraged to come and set an example for younger couples in attendance.”

Hmmm…I wonder if Ron and I (together almost fifteen years now) would count as a good example for younger couples.

February 4, 2009Permalink Leave a comment

OT: possible hallucination

Was I seeing things just now, or was one of the contestants on American Idol really identified as a font designer?

January 29, 2009Permalink Leave a comment

Prop 8 and California’s Court

Andrew Sullivan thinks Prop 8 should be upheld in the courts. As he says, the measure passed fair and square.

I hate it when my principles get in the way of my outrage, indignation, and grief, but as outraged, indignant, and aggrieved as I am over Prop 8’s passage, I have to agree.

Sullivan gets it totally right here: “My own view is that we can protest and have; we are also within our rights to boycott businesses who bankrolled the initiative, and to confront the Mormon church. But we lost a fair fight because of complacency, and dreadful leadership. Now: start the battle to reverse the initiative through the ballot box.”

November 18, 2008Permalink Leave a comment

What did our opponents expect?

The ever-escalading wave of protests has gone viral now; tomorrow at 1:30 pm EST (12:30 local) a nationwide protest, facilitated by Join the Impact is scheduled.

This is a good thing. One thing the general public is just now seeing is that our battle for marriage is not abstractly about redefining an institution and that in fact it’s the exact opposite, it’s about claiming an institution for ourselves that’s been closed off to our forebears, and the benefits (some of them not merely legal) that come with that.

Some of our opponents, bless their hearts, seem to have thought that we’d just slink away in defeat. How could they have thought that? We’ve grown stronger in marriage and seen how life-changing it is. The world sees that now. Every day our allies speak up and our opponents’ grow more silent; ours come forward and theirs shrink back; ours our won and theirs are lost.

What did they expect?

Via Andrew Sullivan.

November 14, 2008Permalink Leave a comment

More consequences and repercussions

Sullivan has an amazing post on the grief and outrage he feels with the passage of California’s Prop 8:

But I realize I am not shattered. My own marriage exists and is real without the approval of others. One day soon, it will be accepted by a majority. And this initiative in California can and will be reversed, as California’s initiatives are much more fluid than those in other states; and the younger generation is overwhelmingly – 2 to 1 – in our favor. The tide of history is behind us; but we will have to work harder to educate people about our lives and loves and humanity.

It cannot be denied that this feels like a punch in the gut. It is. I’m not going to pretend that the wound isn’t deep and personal, like an attack on my own family. It was meant to be. Many Obama supporters voted against our rights, and Obama himself opposes our full civil equality. The religious folk who believe that Jesus stood for the marginalization of minorities, and who believe that my equality somehow threatens their children, will, I pray, see how misguided they have become. And make no mistake: they won this by playing on very deep fears of gay people around kids. They knew the levers to pull.

November 5, 2008Permalink Leave a comment

Prop 8 opponents sue to block measure

The San Francisco Chronicle reports:

The lawsuit argued that Prop. 8 would change the California Constitution in such fundamental ways – taking important rights away from a minority group – that it amounted to a constitutional revision, which requires approval by the Legislature before being submitted to the voters.

Sounds reasonable to me. Alas, I’m not a lawyer.

November 5, 2008Permalink Leave a comment