Now what?

My wonderful cousin Kelly dropped me a note on Facebook today:

Bill,

I’m so sorry about Proposition 8.

What will this mean for you and Ron?

-Kelly

I had to say that I don’t know, but that it would probably have to be settled in the courts.

Seems like I read somewhere that existing marriages wouldn’t be invalidated by Prop 8, but I can’t remember who or what their reasoning was. I’ll have to look in the archives of Towleroad and some other places.

UPDATE: According to this story in the San Francisco Chronicle, Jerry Brown, California’s attorney general, believes that Prop 8 would not invalidate existing marriages, according to a court filing made on August 4.

“I believe that marriages that have been entered into subsequent to the (May 15) Supreme Court opinion will be recognized by the California Supreme Court,” Brown told The Chronicle. Noting that Prop. 8 is silent about retroactivity, he said, “I would think the court, in looking at the underlying equities, would most probably conclude that upholding the marriages performed in that interval (before the election) would be a just result.”

Needless to say, proponents of the measure disagree.

The measure does not state explicitly that it would nullify same-sex marriages performed before Nov. 4. But in their ballot arguments, supporters of Prop. 8 declare it would invalidate all such marriages “regardless of when or where performed” – an interpretation that would apply to existing as well as future marriages.

My money’s on Jerry Brown. But not a lot of it.

November 5, 2008Permalink Leave a comment

Props 8, 102, 2 are approved. Shoot.

It’s not official on Prop 8 yet, but in spite of what the exit polls indicate it’s not looking good.

November 5, 2008Permalink Leave a comment

Gay marriages in Connecticut to begin Nov. 12

Good news from Connecticut:

Same-sex couples in Connecticut will be able to marry as of November 12.

On that date a hearing will take place to enter the final judgment on the Connecticut Supreme Court’s ruling last month that same-sex couples may marry rather than settle for a civil union.

(Via Towleroad.)

November 4, 2008Permalink Leave a comment

Garage sale time

A glance at either of our desks, never mind the rest of the house, will tell you that Ron and I are clutter freaks.

Each of us got that gene from our mothers, so the house was already bad enough. Unfortunately, my mom died in 2005 and Ron’s the following year, so0 now the house has a bunch of their clutter as well.

We’ve also got too much furniture, too many dishes, too many books, and so on. So I’m organizing stuff on the dining room table and separating the wheat from the chaff. If Sturgeon’s Law is applicable, I expect the chaff to be about 90% of the total.

Target date is weekend after next. Will we make it? Who knows?

November 4, 2008Permalink Leave a comment

Vote NO on Proposition 2

If you live in Florida, vote No on Proposition 2.

As with Arizona’s Proposition 102, this proposition would establish a constitutional barrier to same-sex marriage in addition to the long-standing statutory prohibition against it.

Amendments to Florida’s constitution must pass by a 60% margin.

November 4, 2008Permalink Leave a comment

Vote NO on Proposition 102

If you live in Arizona, vote No on Proposition 102.

This proposition would establish a constitutional barrier to same-sex marriage in addition to the long-standing statutory prohibition against it.

Arizona voters have defeated a similar proposition before. I hope they’ll do it again.

November 4, 2008Permalink Leave a comment

Vote NO on Proposition 8

If you live in California, vote No on Proposition 8.

November 4, 2008Permalink Leave a comment

California Proposition 8 reworded; proponents cry foul

California attorney general Jerry Brown has altered the wording of the November ballot initiative Proposition 8, which would amend the state’s constitution to prohibit same-sex marriage.

Original wording:

[Prop 8] Amends the California Constitution to provide that only marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California.

New wording:

[Prop 8] Changes California Constitution to eliminate right of same-sex couples to marry. Provides that only a marriage between a man and a woman is valid or recognized in California. Fiscal Impact: Over the next few years, potential revenue loss, mainly sales taxes, totaling in the several tens of millions of dollars, to state and local governments. In the long run, likely little fiscal impact to state and local governments.

Same-sex marriage advocates, who oppose the proposition have praised the change; conversely, the measure’s proponents, from organizations such as the Protect Marriage coalition, are dismayed, and a lawsuit is in the works to retain the original wording.

Bilerico has more, here and here.

July 29, 2008Permalink 2 Comments

Massachusetts House approves repeal of 1913 marriage statute

Towleroad and everybody else is reporting that the Massachusetts House has voted to repeal a law enacted in 1913 that prohibits out-of-state couples from marrying in Massachusetts if the marriage would be invalid in their home state.

The state senate approved the repeal two weeks ago and Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick has indicated that he’ll sign it into law.

We’re official!

Just got our certificate in today’s mail.

Yes, I did obscure a few details. No point in making things too easy for identity thieves.